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The General Surgery Coding Coach 2012 Archives
| 45380 and Modifier 76 |
May 3, 2012
Question:
Our surgeon performed a biopsy of colon polyp on 3/13/12. During the global period, 2 weeks later, the patient was taken back to the OR for another biopsy. We reported 45380 for the first procedure and 45380-76 for the second procedure. We received a denial from Medicare stating this was an invalid modifier. What modifier should we have used?
Answer:
First, CPT code 45380 does not have any global days. When the patient was returned to the OR 2 weeks later for the same procedure, CPT code 45380 (assuming this is correct CPT code) should have been reported without any modifiers Second, most Medicare payors do not recognize modifier 76 on surgical CPT codes during the global period. Medicare recognizes modifier 76 on surgical CPT codes on the same day as the original surgical procedure, but does not recognize on surgical CPT codes beginning the day after surgery.
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| Intraoperative Nerve Monitoring and Thyroidectomy Procedures |
April 12, 2012
Question:
Is the intraoperative neural integrity monitoring considered part of the total thyroidectomy (60240) or is there a separate code for it? I am looking at CPT code 95865 to report this procedure for our surgeon?
Answer:
Intraoperative nerve monitoring (IOM) is not separately reportable by the surgeon as it is considered an integral part of the procedure. IOM is reportable by a second physician who is not participating in the case such as a neurologist or physical medicine physician.
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| New Patient vs Established Patient |
March 29, 2012
Question:
Our practice employs five general surgeons, a colorectal surgeon and a vascular surgeon. We were reading with interest the 2012 CPT changes and were wondering if this revision affects how we report new and established patient visits. They are all “general” surgeons, but the colorectal and vascular surgeons are credentialed with Medicare as colorectal and vascular surgeons respectively.
Answer:
Great question and one that was “clarified” in 2012 but for your purposes really changed nothing. Medicare has recognized vascular surgery and colorectal surgery as different specialties within general surgery for some time. General Surgery is specialty code “20”; Vascular Surgery is specialty code “77”; Colorectal Surgery is specialty code “28”. This allows you to bill a new patient the first time the patient is seen by a physician of their respective specialty.
What this means, and is clarified in 2012, is that the first time the patient is seen by the general surgeon, a new patient visit can be reported, and likewise for the vascular and colorectal surgeon. This, of course, assumes that the patient has not received any professional services from a physician, same group, same specialty/subspecialty within the past three years. If the patient was seen by the vascular surgeon in consultation in the hospital and then follows up in the office, it is an established patient, as the patient has received professional services. If the general surgeon on call sees the patient in the hospital and transfers care to the vascular surgeon and the first visit to the vascular surgeon is in the office, the vascular surgeon reports a 9920x. While they are in the same group, the vascular surgeon is a different “specialty” as recognized by Medicare.
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| Review of System or Exam Element |
March 15, 2012
Question:
I am so excited! I have recently passed my certification as a coding auditor and have taken on a new job doing nothing but audits. I am reviewing an office note and have a question related to a statement in the note. The surgeon documented “Neck is supple, no JVD or lymphadenopathy.” I am not sure where to give credit for these statements in the Review of Systems. I know I can give credit for skin and lymphatic but not sure if I am capturing everything. Can you assist me?
Answer:
Congratulations on your new coding certification! Based on the information you provided, it appears that these statements are not related to a Review of Systems but are actually findings from a physical exam. Credit would be counted as “elements identified by a bullet” in the 1997 Multi-System Exam and not the Review of Systems. However, without the full note it difficult to advise 100%. Review the entire note again and re-code it and see what you think. |
| What Global Period to Follow |
March 1, 2012
Question:
Patient had a malignant lesion removed on the right neck. The wound size required the surgeon to harvest a split thickness skin graft. We know the lesion has a ten day global and the skin graft has a 90 day global period. Our question is: Since there are 2 separate global days, if the patient comes in for a recheck of the lesion after the ten day global period, can the surgeon bill for an E&M for the lesion re-check.
Answer:
This is a logical question based on the different global days. In this case, we recommend not reporting an E&M as the skin graft is “covering” the site of where the lesion was excised, thus the return visit is really focusing on wound assessment related to the skin graft and necessarily the lesion. |
| Intraoperative Consultations |
February 16, 2012
Question:
Our surgeon was called to the OR to perform and intraoperative consultation. How do we
report this service?
Answer:
The service will be dependent on the payor. Report 9925X Inpatient Consultation if the payor still recognizes consultation services. Report 9922x or 9923x to Medicare based on the documentation. |
| 15777: Implantation of Biologic Implant |
January 26, 2012
Question:
Our tumor physician performed a large resection and was left with what he perceived to be “at risk tissue” that required the use of biologic grafts to reconstruction the internal tissue and provide reinforcement. He was able to close the wound with a complex repair after reconstructing the deeper tissue and providing internal structure protection. Can I use 15777 for this purpose?
Answer:
CPT 2012 introduces a host of code changes including changes to the Section title, deletion of the old skin substitute codes and introduction of new skin replacement /substitute codes. The changes were necessitated due to confusion of the old codes and concern about inappropriate usage of the skin substitute codes as “mesh” or for “bulk.”
Additionally, and to answer your question, CPT introduced 15777, Implantation of biologic implant (e.g., acellular dermal matrix) for soft tissue reinforcement (e.g., breast, trunk) (List separately in addition to code for primary procedure) for this exact purpose.
CPT code 15777 is an add-on code, thus is reported in addition to the primary procedure and a modifier 51 is not appended. |
| "VATS" Procedure |
January 12, 2012
Question:
I am new to general surgery coding this past December and have a surgeon who dictates his procedures as “VATS” Procedure. After doing some research, I understand this is an acronym for video assisted thoracic surgery. But, I can’t find specific CPT codes, so am wondering do I use an unlisted code?
Answer:
Welcome to the world of general surgery coding and your life has been made a bit easier with the introduction of a new section in CPT 2012 and additionally new guidelines are introduced clarifying codes in the section specifically the various approaches for thoracic surgery. Refer to CPT codes 32601-32674 to answer your specific questions. |
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Mary LeGrand,
RN, MA, CCS-P, CPC

Teri Romano,
RN, MBA, CPC
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